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	<title>Comments on: MMORPG Security: Secret Chat Exploits</title>
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	<description>Notes of a Potential Independent Game Developer</description>
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		<title>By: ekspekt</title>
		<link>http://www.potentialgames.com/blog/2008/10/16/mmorpg-security-secret-chat-exploits/comment-page-1/#comment-4175</link>
		<dc:creator>ekspekt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting post, will come back here, bookmarked your site</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting post, will come back here, bookmarked your site</p>
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		<title>By: Munk</title>
		<link>http://www.potentialgames.com/blog/2008/10/16/mmorpg-security-secret-chat-exploits/comment-page-1/#comment-4101</link>
		<dc:creator>Munk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 04:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you and good luck with your own game (:

I think the lack of documentation is probably a result of:
&lt;em&gt;(b) are known by insiders who don’t want to talk about them&lt;/em&gt;
The insight you&#039;re looking for is probably just buried in the bugreport logs, and generally nobody publishes those. My experience suggests that hackerish types will try even harder to break a game than they would a normal business website, often because finding and reporting bugs is commonly *encouraged* by game masters, who reward found exploits with special in-game items that provide a strong motivation for people to hack ethically, while banishing those who exploit without reporting. 

If you&#039;re interested in seeing the stuff that got caught in SSW&#039;s code (heh, nobody&#039;s perfect), the bug reports (all 2254 of them) are searchable as long as you&#039;re logged in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you and good luck with your own game (:</p>
<p>I think the lack of documentation is probably a result of:<br />
<em>(b) are known by insiders who don’t want to talk about them</em><br />
The insight you&#8217;re looking for is probably just buried in the bugreport logs, and generally nobody publishes those. My experience suggests that hackerish types will try even harder to break a game than they would a normal business website, often because finding and reporting bugs is commonly *encouraged* by game masters, who reward found exploits with special in-game items that provide a strong motivation for people to hack ethically, while banishing those who exploit without reporting. </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested in seeing the stuff that got caught in SSW&#8217;s code (heh, nobody&#8217;s perfect), the bug reports (all 2254 of them) are searchable as long as you&#8217;re logged in.</p>
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		<title>By: neb</title>
		<link>http://www.potentialgames.com/blog/2008/10/16/mmorpg-security-secret-chat-exploits/comment-page-1/#comment-620</link>
		<dc:creator>neb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 04:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Munk, I&#039;m glad to hear from someone else writing their own game code. From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.secretsocietywars.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;your link&lt;/a&gt;, your game looks great. Congratulations on making it into beta! I&#039;m still implementing gameplay features in alpha myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Munk, I&#8217;m glad to hear from someone else writing their own game code. From <a href="http://www.secretsocietywars.com/" rel="nofollow">your link</a>, your game looks great. Congratulations on making it into beta! I&#8217;m still implementing gameplay features in alpha myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Munk</title>
		<link>http://www.potentialgames.com/blog/2008/10/16/mmorpg-security-secret-chat-exploits/comment-page-1/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator>Munk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another good example of why building your own code is often much better than trying to use 3rd-party code. Most of the chat systems I tried out in SSW had terrible built-in security or load-handling problems. I ended up rolling my own eventually, just so I knew it properly sanitized and authenticated transactions and could handle load without dropping messages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another good example of why building your own code is often much better than trying to use 3rd-party code. Most of the chat systems I tried out in SSW had terrible built-in security or load-handling problems. I ended up rolling my own eventually, just so I knew it properly sanitized and authenticated transactions and could handle load without dropping messages.</p>
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		<title>By: neb</title>
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		<dc:creator>neb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m working on it rampantly, Andrew! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m working on it rampantly, Andrew! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.potentialgames.com/blog/2008/10/16/mmorpg-security-secret-chat-exploits/comment-page-1/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nyhm, thanks for dropping by. I&#039;m glad you found my post interesting. And wow, you&#039;re developing your own MMORPG? That&#039;s amazing! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nyhm, thanks for dropping by. I&#8217;m glad you found my post interesting. And wow, you&#8217;re developing your own MMORPG? That&#8217;s amazing! :)</p>
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